"Cé hé sin" (michael-m-mouse)
12/23/2018 at 14:47 • Filed to: None
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"Cé hé sin" (michael-m-mouse)
12/23/2018 at 14:47 • Filed to: None | 0
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I’m contemplating carrying around a large bunch of holly so that anybody who has the temerity to say something like “happy holidays” can have it inserted fundamentally.
That includes Google.
Happy Christmas!
farscythe - makin da cawfee!
> Cé hé sin
12/23/2018 at 14:57 |
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happy holidays mate :)
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Cé hé sin
> farscythe - makin da cawfee!
12/23/2018 at 15:01 |
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Now just bend over......
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farscythe - makin da cawfee!
> Cé hé sin
12/23/2018 at 15:06 |
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facw
> Cé hé sin
12/23/2018 at 15:07 |
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Yeah, if you wish people who don’t celebrate Christmas a M erry Christmas, you are being an asshole. Wishing someone a happy holidays us much less belligerent. Maybe save that holly for yourself :P
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Cé hé sin
> facw
12/23/2018 at 15:23 |
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I’v
e
yet to hear s
omebody say something like “would you be offended in some way if I wished you a happy Christmas rather than some vaguely n
on-specific term like “happy holidays”. If you live in such a place, remind m
e
never to visi
t!
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facw
> Cé hé sin
12/23/2018 at 15:43 |
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It’s definitely offensive. It shows contempt for the person you are talking to that you didn’t even consider that they might not celebrate, or worse that you considered that and decided to wish them a Merry Christmas anyway. It’s nasty exclusionary bullying, even if there were good sentiments behind them .
Meanwhile, what is your problem with happy holidays, or other less specific greetings?
ttyymmnn
> facw
12/23/2018 at 15:51 |
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ttyymmnn
> Cé hé sin
12/23/2018 at 15:53 |
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facw
> ttyymmnn
12/23/2018 at 15:57 |
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That’s fine. And I would recommend giving the benefit of doubt of the doubt to someone who wishes a Merry Christmas. That doesn’t make them right to do so though. And the class of person demands to be able to wish Merry Christmas to everyone clearly is doing it for themselves, not to bring joy to others because they clearly don’t care that they are being dismissive and alienating to a portion of the population.
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ttyymmnn
> facw
12/23/2018 at 16:07 |
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Yes, some people just do it to be an asshole.
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Cé hé sin
> facw
12/24/2018 at 09:26 |
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My original post was intended to be somewhat tongue in cheek but as you’re taking it so seriously: because it’s political correctness gone mad. It’s also patronising. One group of people is deciding, without actually asking, that another group is going to be offended and has taken it upon themselves to protect their sensibilities. People presumably like my sister’s Muslim husband. By rights he should be offended by any mention of the religious festivals of others, yet he isn’t bothered. In this vein I read recently of some Muslims who were asked how they reacted to religious events not their own, to which they said that they found non-belief more alienating than belief in something else. On that basis you could suggest that they would find the non-specific “happy holidays” worse than “happy Christmas”.
Anyway, if I was one of those people who were going to take offence at Christmas greetings (I’ve never actually met one, but with there must be somebody) today would have been a bad day. I got an email from Europcar with “Happy Christmas” in the subject line. I th en read a newspaper which had “happ y Christmas to everybody” across its front page. Next I did some last minute shopping. Not only did the shop have “Happy Christmas” on the front doors, the cashier said “have a lovely Christmas” without enquiring if this would cause me grief. Sh ould I have reported her to management for “ nasty exclusionary bullying”? A ll this before lunchtime. Who knows what th e rest of the day could bring?
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facw
> Cé hé sin
12/24/2018 at 13:16 |
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People in the majority often often decide (all on their own) that offensive things they do are okay, and no one really minds. They mistake politeness and conflict avoidance for acceptance.
And yes, all those things you mentioned can be offensive. I’d take them all to be well meaning cheer. The newspaper in particular is a broad message rather than said to anyone specifically, which makes it less problematic. I’m not saying people cannot be excited about Christmas, but someone who is demanding to be able to ignore the recipient’ s beliefs is not spreading goodwill, it’s asserting dominance.
I do want to apologize for the fact my previous post may have gotten a bit hot, this is obviously something I feel passionate about . I still think I’m right on the subject, but I don’t think my tone was remotely conducive to convincing you of that, so I’m sorry for that.
Since you obviously do celebrate, I hope you have a Merry Christmas (or a Happy Christmas if that makes you feel more at home).